Trocação Franca: Mackenzie Dern on endless accent debate, choosing to represent Brazil over U.S., Marina Rodriguez and more

Mackenzie Dern is after all the marbles.

The jiu-jitsu legend and rising UFC strawweight star stops by MMA Fighting’s Portuguese-language podcast Trocação Franca to discuss everything ahead of her first UFC main event at UFC Vegas 39 opposite Marina Rodriguez this Saturday, from the non-stop annoying debate around her accent, to whether or not she’s seen as a true Brazilian, how motherhood changed her life and career, how beauty affects one’s career, potentially fighting for UFC gold with a win over Rodriguez, and more.

Then, Graciemag journalist Carlos Arthur Junior looks into recent major main events, the lackluster Thiago Santos vs. Johnny Walker clash in the UFC, and Douglas Lima’s close defeat to Michael Page in London. Junior also debates Dern’s successful transition from jiu-jitsu to MMA and why we don’t see many women making the jump to cages and rings compared to male grapplers.

Trocação Franca drops weekly every Wednesday — except for this week’s episode — with different Brazilian MMA stars and journalists to debate the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world.

Listen to the latest episode below and don’t forget to subscribe to the MMA Fighting feed on all your favorite podcast platforms for the newest episodes.